you have the faa instituting a no fly zone. amtrak shut down from new york to boston. so, what you're telling us is, its could be he's in connecticut or new york. >> well, could be. could have stolen a car. we just don't know. remember, the shootout with the police happened under the veil of darkness. then he drove off, driving over his brother, and then ditched that car. from that point on, the police didn't see him. so, i don't know where he is. and i think if the police knew where he was, they would be there right now, as well. >> right. >> let me say one other thing. people say, why did they not harm the man whose car was -- who they car jacked, and i think it's a very important reason why they didn't. they established a round with this guy, though it was a very brief one. he was a person. where as all the other people they targeted on monday, at the marathon, they were anonymous, faceless entities. it's a lot easier for criminals to target and kill those they don't even see. >> bill? >> yeah, i -- you know, senator mitch mcconnell said the other day, jamie, that t